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Worried About Making Your Website Responsive (for Tablets & Phones)?

February 3, 2013 by

Here are a few simple steps to guide your thinking about this recent switch to tablets and phones. Do you need to change your website? What do you do first?

Step 1 — Find Out How Your Web Visitors Reach You

If you have attached Google Analytics to your website, then go to your analytics results and check about devices. Select Audiences > Select Mobile > Select Devices. You can see how many visitors are coming to you from a device such as a phone or tablet. If you don’t have Google analytics set up, then that would be your first step. Go to Google.com and add analytics first.

There are five choices to see here:
– Mobile Device Info: which devices

- Mobile Device Branding: brand names

- Service Provider: which internet provider

- Mobile Input Selector: touchscreen or other – this can be interesting

- Operating System: IOS versus Android

- Other: select . . . screen resolution

Select “Other: screen resolution”
Then you see the exact dimensions of the screens for every visitor.

Calculate what percent of your visitors are coming on phones and tablets from this information.
When you start to hit some high percentages here, then you know it is time to honor these visitrs with a good view of your content.

Step 2 — Understanding What a “Responsive” Website Is

A responsive site responds to the type of screen or device the visitor is using. The style codes are set for device measurements such as 230 or 480 or 700. These dimensions are in pixels but roughly you can figure 230pixels is a normal smartphone screen 2 inches or so wide. 500pixels is like the long view on an iphone or the narrow view on a 7″inch tablet. 800 pixels and up is a larger device like an iPad. The code for your website can be set to respond to these widths by changing the content shown first to the viewer.

For a smaller device you may see one column at a time instead of three columns side by side. The content in the second column might play below the first one. Third column goes below that. Various combinations may be used. For a 7inch tablet, you might see two columns at once. When a website is scaled down like this you see different views, and content in a different order, but you see the same basic content. It is not like a mobile phone site which offers reduced content or options.

Step 3 — Planning for Your Website

The first thing to think about is what your website would look like if it were only one column wide, one two-inch column. Here are some of the changes to imagine.

Photos: Those big photos on your desktop site will need to go. They may be able to reduce to five inches or so for a tablet site. You might have one or two photos that are narrow for a phone sized site.

Text: Cut out all the excess. Then cut more. If you have a long article you might use the first couple sentences and allow people to click to see more. To play a list of selections for choosing what to read, you might show a list of titles with little or no text.

Navigation: If you have a long navigation – five columns with dropdowns – that would become so long people are not likely to wade through them. Often people will put a button to click before seeing the  navigation choices, or gather groups of topics into just a few choices.

These are some of the decisions you would need to make. If you think about the circumstances under which most people would view the site, then you can logically figure out what they might look at or read. Part of the thinking behind mobile phone sites or apps is that people want less information and you pick the few things they need. One of the drawbacks of this approach is that most of the time anybody choosing what others will need has been wrong.

The statistics here are quite funny actually. No one seems to get it right and people just take the bottom of first page click to go to the full site most of the time. Literally, this is true. I watched a site last year have almost 100% of its mobile visitors take the first page click to the full site instead. This is sad for someone who spent the money to make an elaborate mobile site and not have it used. Wise and detailed thinking is needed so you can stage your information appropriately and not miss your viewers by making the wrong content cuts.

Step 4 — Think About Your Options for Switching Your Template

Many people with content management system websites can select from a variety of templates available and simply switch to another one that offers responsive options. There are many for Word-Press already. Most content systems have choices available at this point. But there is one key drawback to a responsive template: it may have automatic ways to change the site that do not take into account your special content features or your audience needs. This is not a one-size fits all kind of change.

For example, one major chain store made the switch and their fifty menu items turned into five screens deep for visitors to find their item. This was most unsuccessful and they had to place navigation items quite differently on their second try. Deciding how to be kind to your visitors is not a simple process. Using an automatic template to do this is not always successful. A cheap choice may not serve you at all.

You may wish to interview professionals to help you. We can either do it for you, or we can look at the type of content you have and simply guide you to options that are better choices for you. We can guide you to the best ways to serve your type of clients and provide what they need. You can also pay for such guidance as a consultative visit. Do this before you hire someone else to do it all for you, so you know which skills to look for in your hired professional.

Responsive is just not a one-size-fits-all solution. (pun intentended)

Look for more information in future posts on your choices for taking this step with both your website and your emails.

Pepper Oldziey is a Graphic Designer, Web Developer, certified Search Engine Optimization specialist and Corporate Web Strategist, in business for 44 years. Her studio is Peppergraphics. She is available for one hour one-on-one consultations to provide advice about making this transition for your website (no matter which website developer you may actually use to do the work).

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Have You Seen Your Website on a Tablet? Can Your Clients Use it?

January 6, 2013 by

Most business websites have been planned for viewing on a desktop or laptop browser. We often put a great deal of care into doing this. But, as of the end of 2012, do you really know how many of your potential clients see your site that way?

Yesterday I assisted a friend to see his website on a 7″ tablet for the first time. He was shocked.

Everything was tiny; the flash video didn’t work; the headlines were hard to read. He was really surprised, and knew immediately this problem had to be fixed. How about you? Do you know where your clients are when they are searching?

According to the latest 2012 research on “device” use, U.S. Adults with smartphones have some new habits!

The point is . . . if you thought they were looking on desktops and laptops at your carefully planned website, guess again.

So many people were busy giving and receiving all the latest new tablets, smartphones and other digital devices last month. Now what do you think they will do with them? Shopping, checking, researching, sharing . . . all those things we thought they did on computers. How about your clients?

66% of smartphone users “pre-shop” on their smartphones, according to the Pew Internet Report. And one-third of adult shoppers do it in the stores!

Then 37% decide not to buy and 19% leave stores to go purchase it online instead. But only 37% of retailers have a mobile website compatible with mobile browsers! Too bad for all the others.

What about the younger consumers, those with lower incomes, recent immigrants? 62% of people age 18-24 own a smartphone. 80% of their new phone purchases are smartphones. 42% go online primarily on their phones, not a desktop. The trend is moving away from desktop domination. If your clients are younger, that’s not the way to reach them. And now tablets of all types and sizes are more affordable, work on wifi without a cell phone account, and provide the world at lower cost to those who cannot afford a broadband account at home. Think about how this applies to your consumer audience.

Will the Tablet Takeover Tsunami bury you?

As you reflect on what the end of 2012 and the new proliferation of devices on the market will do for consumers here and across the U.S., play this out in terms of the likely uses your potential clients will make of their new toys. The newest trends in website design simply drop the desktop browser focus for content developed, designed and coded not just for smartphones but for all flavors and sizes of devices.

This is NOT a Switch to Mobile Sites!!

I know you’ve heard “mobile sites” were the next big thing. Folks, the population doesn’t like them because they contain only partial site content. Think for a moment about these younger users for whom the desktop is not an option. Most people “go to full site” almost automatically on the phones because their desired information is not provided on those skimpy sites intended for just a few uses. People who can afford only one device are not serviced by a stripped down site.

Designing flexible sites for all sizes of tablets and devices is the way to go. This is the website future. This is called “Responsive” design and “Adaptive” design, buzz words in the web community. Please investigate these options before you proceed to put time or money into mobile phone sites or desktop websites. If this is where we are in the end of 2012, think what our habits will be in 2013 and plan to be there too.

 

Pepper Oldziey is a web designer and corporate web strategist. View her website designs on www.peppergraphics.com. Talk with her about the newest strategies, and how simple it is to make your web content a good fit for all devices.

 

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How Do I Get Traffic To My Website

April 11, 2012 by
How Do I Get Traffic To My Website

Increase Website Traffic for Business

Many people think that just having a good website is all you need to get tons of visitors. The reality is, getting traffic to your site takes hard work and diligence and is not accomplished overnight. And, because the competitive landscape for every industry is different, one size (approach) does not fit all!

If you search on the web for advice, you’ll find good, bad, malicious and everything in between. For some reasonable best practices on, “How do I get traffic to my website?, click on the resource link.

The first place to start is to find your niche, then fill it with quality content. Build around what your most desired clients wants and needs are. Provide quality content and present it, through clean & creative layout, well. Give them your best!

 

How Do I Get Traffic To My Website – SEO

After good content & layout, there is SEO. There are on-page factors as well as off-page factors. On-page factors include:

  • Use of correct Keywords & Keyphrases
  • Use of Keywords in Domain Name (Dead-on Domain)
  • Use of Keywords on Page Titles and Post Titles
  • Use of good content related to your Keywords
  • Use of good internal and outgoing linking with the right Anchor Text

Off-page SEO factors include:

  • Links from related industry authoritative sites
  • Anchor link text with Keywords linking back to your website
  • Proper use of Social Media
  • Article writing with deep linking back to your website
  • Videos with links back to your website

Please note, what is shared here is only scratching the surface and is not exhaustive. And, local search is a whole other ballgame, where other rules also apply.

How Do I Get Traffic To My Website? – Blog

Did I mention good content? The search engines are all about content; they are ravenous creatures constantly on the prowl for more, new and fresh content. By “fresh”, I mean new and unique. Re-spun is OK if you’re giving it some “value add” to it.

There’s another way to think of the term, “BLOG“; I’ve used this before, but think of it in terms like:

Better

Listing

On

Google

Blogging and sharing, via your Social Media channels (LinkedIn, Twitter, FaceBook, etc.), including local networks, (e.g. – Inside919) all help towards visibility. Did I mention Video Blogging? Well that’s the subject of another article in the near future.

This topic is so broad, I’m sure folks can add to my list. Give it your best shot by commenting below.

Lastly, good news for Inside919er’s, Pat Howlett has created an excellent Article Marketing course that can give you a boost in your online visibility. I highly recommend it. Check out: Article Marketing for Insiders

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Google+ Hits 150 Million

February 16, 2012 by


I wasn’t sure if Google Plus would be that significant or not but the following has gotten my attention. FYI – Some of this info is a little dated by about 2 months, but it remains noteworthy.


Google+ Pundits Weigh-In


“According to data collected by GlobalWebIndex, Google+ has skyrocketed in the past few months and can now boast over 150 million actives users.” – Source: WebProNews


Per Search Engine Land, “Google+ uses a diaspora-like way of sharing content with users by utilizing circles. I think this format is very appealing to many users who are working to balance their professional and personal life.”

Tom’s Guide says, “This time Google is serious – After many years of tinkering, and more than a few false starts (Remember Orkut, and Wave? Anyone still Buzzing?), Google has released Plus, its answer to Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and all the social networking sites in between.”

And, Mashable.com weighs in with, “The Gloves are Off!” in response to Facebook.

Google+ – My 2 Cents


For search benefit and social media benefit, I’m recommending that my clients use Google Plus, but the jury is still out for the next several months on how successful Google & users will ultimately be.

What are your thoughts? PLEASE COMMENT!

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Author: Bob Walton is a Raleigh SEO & Local Search search engine marketing service provider for local businesses. If you want to DOMINATE LOCALLY, need a new website, or have questions on improving your existing website, please contact Bob @ 919-523-4185.

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Abundant SEO – My 100 Day Personal Journey

January 30, 2012 by

Just as good SEO includes, not only excellently crafted “on-page elements”, “off-page factors” can play a bigger role (see: Inbound Link Text Rules), and some of the best SEO starts “off-line”, before you even begin to build a website.

“What are you talking about?”, some of you are wondering. Let me peal back the darkness a little so that you too can see the “light”.

Abundant SEO Starts Off-Line

My journey began a year and a half ago when a colleague recommended that I meet Bill Davis and take his 100 Days To Abundance class. Wow! It was life transforming, and the best investment I could ever make for my business.

There’s an adage that says, “Faithful are the wounds of a friend.” Bill teaches time tried and tested methods & strategies to create:

  • An unlimited supply of prospects
  • Powerful referral partners & systems
  • Strategic partners to grow your business
  • More clients
  • Increased business from existing clients
  • More results than you thought possible

As with most metamorphic experiences, one must begin with humility. At least enough to acknowledge that there are some folks out there that are just plain smarter and wiser than you, at what you do. We all learn by mistakes, they don’t have to always be our own?

Besides, even when Bill is being “hard” on you, his motive is purely out of a heart to help you overcome obstacles hindering your business. He won’t tell you what to do, he’ll teach the principles then ask you the right questions to help you discover for yourself what’s in your best interest.

Abundant SEO – My BFO (Blinding Flash of the Obvious)

Abundance for me began when Bill challenged me to not think of my competitors as my enemies. Back in the day, and many may find this funny, I didn’t know the creator of the Come on Inside Networks. I asked Bill, “Who is this Pat Howlett guy?” I was actually a little afraid of him, seeing all that he created and was doing.

However, that started me on a road of seeking & making contact with Pat, to get to know and understand who and what he was about, to discover not only his entrepreneurial prowess, but his generous and altruistic motivations. That lead to my becoming a Network Parter on inside919, a Howlett SEO disciple, and now a business collaborator on some new ventures that I never would have thought of on my own.

Abundant SEO – You Can Profit From It Too!

If you’ve never heard of Bill’s program, now known as, 100 Days to Abundance (2+98 = 100% Growth) , or if you’re on the fence trying to decide if you’ll benefit from it or not, just “pull the trigger” and do it. You’ll thank yourself later.

May you, “Live long and prosper!” It’s a choice, you know.

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Author: Bob Walton is a Raleigh SEO & SEM search engine marketing service provider for local businesses. If you want to DOMINATE LOCALLY, need a new website, or have questions on improving your existing website, please contact Bob @ 919-523-4185.

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Unclaimed FREE Web Real Estate for Local Search Dominance

January 5, 2012 by

I’m very upset and really bothered! Why? I’m frequently asked, “Hey Bob, I have a website but I don’t get any traffic. Can you help me?” “Of course I can”, I say. Then comes the next statement, “I don’t have much money, what is the cheapest way for me to show up on Google?” Nine times out of ten, the answer to the following question is the same, I ask “Have you claimed your Google Places page and optimized there?” To my dismay, most say, “No.”

A quick look at my profile picture will reveal how regularly I’ve pulled my hair out over that response. Ouch!!! ;-D Google now says 20% of all searches are geographical (in other words, contain keywords for a particular city, state, town, or area). What’s an even more staggering fact is not even 40% of businesses have claimed their Google Places page.

For the soloprenuer, and businesses that run out of a home office, I can understand there may be genuine concern of not giving out personal information. There’s good news however; you can show up on Google Maps without displaying your personal address. See for yourself, in the below case study.

Stacey Shannahan has a home office in Wake County. One of her services/products is Web Videos. We met only only a few days ago, claimed and optimized her Google Places page, and now she’s on the top of Google Maps for the keyphrase “web video Raleigh”. Further, she’s on page 2 for her new website, boasting of only one blog post, for the same keyphrase, for a standard search. That’s simply “Awesome”!

Try it yourself in your browser’s search bar, or visit CDS Productions website featuring Web Video Raleigh services. The cool thing about how she’s displayed on Google Maps, it that she shows as a sphere, rather than a push pin, placed as a centroid, to the areas her business serves.

What about the brick and mortar businesses that already show in Google Maps? Well, you may show, but if you haven’t claimed and optimized your Places page correctly, it’s doing you little, to no good. And, you’re wasting valuable FREE web Real Estate. Further, optimized correctly, your Google Places page will organically push up your business website in Google searches. This is huge, yet so few take full advantage of this approach.

Given the above, why aren’t businesses aren’t taking full advantage of Google Places?

  • Is it a lack of knowledge?
  • Is it the fear of angering the Google gods for doing something wrong by accident?
  • Is it technophobia?

IWhat’s your take?

 

Have questions, call me at 919-523-4185, or visit at my inside919 page, Bob Walton. My web address is: www.SEOSEMRaleigh.com

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How Can I Get My Website On Google? – 5 Common Mistakes To Avoid

January 10, 2011 by


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Is Your Website more like a Favorite Book or a Favorite Pet?

February 24, 2010 by

Have you noticed that people often refer to their websites by saying, “Yes I put up a website a few years ago, and sometime i need to update it.” What my ears hear here is similar to a comment one might make about a favorite book. Yes, I love that book and have it on my coffee table. Every once in a while I pick it up and reread a favorite passage. A book is static, done, produced, complete and bound – not to be changed until you make or buy a new book. Indeed that is the way we have, in the past, thought about websites – a static marketing tool. And often those who built them for us set it up so only they could update them, for pay. It’s a different world and every website now can and should be easily updatable at will by its owner. Not just blogs, every site.

Now, in contrast to that, think about your favorite pet, perhaps your dog. Every day you get up early and feed him, walk him. Then when you return from work you go play catch or take a run with her and feed her and give her water and lots of loving. She or he is devoted to you and sits lovingly by your side always waiting for a golden glance of favor from you. This to me is more like an interaction with a website should be (or at least with Inside919).

Times really have changed since those old days of the original internet. Google changed its algorithms, and now posts tweets live. Posts from this website are up on search engines within 15 minutes says Pat. If you want the search engine spiders to come back and list the content on your site you need to be updating your content constantly. Many people do so by having a blog. There are many other ways to frequently and easily update your website though. You can build em to post on yourself as easily and frequently as you do here. You can build em for your clients to post on as well.

No matter what you do with your own brand of updating and commenting, I think we need a mindset change. Just as we love our pets every day, we could be loving on our main marketing tools, our tools for personal connection with our world. For many of us it replaces the brick and mortar store or office we used to walk into daily before we carried our offices in our pockets on a device.

Far from dreading this tool, if we place this interaction in a different role in our hearts, then it will come naturally. But there needs to be a mindset shift, without fear or dread. Perhaps you might think of giving your website a pet name and begin a new relationship with it. It could be more easily done than you think.

If you agree with me, leave a comment and share your new name for your website with the world. To say it is to do it – makes it more real.

I think I will name mine . . . Dorothy . . . she clicks her heels three times and travels where she dreams in an instant. Think this is silly? think about it. Times are a changing. We need to reboot.
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Scalable Websites — Wave of the Future — Scale your website down to smartphone size!

January 29, 2010 by

Inspired by the great information in Martin Brossman and Anora McGaha’s book “Social Media for Business” I read on to explore the changes predicted and make plans to use my time well to build and manage social media. I came across the article by Scott Priestly, “The Megaphone in Your Customer’s Pocket” where he describes the reality of 2012 where we will use the smartphones more than the computer to travel online. For business, having a mobile app will be as widespread as having a website. Since that book was written, just in the last six months, new technology has indeed made this possible!


It is simpler than we might think. It is a way of coding a website so that it shapeshifts! You can now code a website to fold itself down from full computer screen to the narrow screen of the iphone automatically. No tricks, same website, same code, no expensive apps, the sites are just flexible. Imagine going to your phone and instead of seeing that full website in all its microscopic glory, you see just one column wide of the most important content on the site, and navigation that travels the site intuitively, and it is the same website you see online full size on the computer. This type of website is more approachable for micro-business than building an expensive web app.



Right now almost all sites are portable but this is new, the ability to write style code for a website to have it expand and contract with the device it is on. I also don’t mean any special expensive techniques or fancy javascript code. I just mean good clean new web standards coded sites. During the last six months the CSS3 web styling standards have made a new way to build even the simplest sites possible, and it is beginning to come into the fore now for those who code websites. Five columns becomes one column, and back, intuitively based on the device. Some techniques like this were available, but now it can be done with the most Google friendly code and even on inexpensive sites. It is not a widget. It is a new technique in coding. Google likes valid new code and values it as a baseline now. But, that’s enough geek talk. Just know your website has to be planned with this “primary” pocket use in mind, so if it works for your main audience, you may want to give it a try.



You can ride the wave into the future with your next website update, before you check out that free template for your word press site, consider having a newly coded template that plays well with the future on that device in your pocket. Follow the trends coming as we see in this new book. The big website is no longer the base. Flexible websites of the future will play well with your social media and your smartphone or any other device.

 

Come ask me about it if this idea fascinates you. I am passionately excited about it and was thrilled when this new book reminded me the time has come for the portable chameleon sites of the future right now as we develop our new ways of social networking the web.

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4 Myths about Word Press – the blogging website

January 19, 2010 by

Word Press is great, and well loved, but is it really the best website content management system for most or all small and micro business? I think there are many opinions on this. It certainly is popular. It certainly is well loved by Search Engines when used actively. But are there other facts or other content systems just as good?
 
1. Myth 1 – Word Press is the best content management system for small business


There are three major open source and free content management systems used by small business: Word Press™, Joomla™ and Drupal™. They are are open source – this means created by a team of folks and given freely over the web with a very open public license. Look it up for details. They all serve small business and others. They all have free and low cost templates. They all can be set up in minutes by you, right out of the box, or rather out of the download. You can hire web professionals to custom design and template them or tweak the templates of others.



So how do you tell which one is best? Perhaps this may help:

Word Press.com – often used by individuals, socially and for small and micro business blog-based websites

Joomla.org – often used by micro, small and middle sized businesses and organizations with local and national presence

Drupal.org – known as the “enterprise” solution because it serves micro business and organizations up to full corporate large scale needs



Why use one of these? Because it costs less than developing your own unique complex website. You put your money on templating. And when something happens to the web person you started with, you can find others easily anywhere who know it and can help you with it.



2. Myth 2 – Word Press has the most Widgets or Extensions – the most “stuff”



Let’s see how many options can one website use at a time . . . there are thousands of widgets and extensions for Word Press. There are 8125 extensions at the moment for Joomla. And more indeed for the enterprise sites on Drupal. The question is kind of silly, since you can only use a few at a time, but virtually anything you want to do, you can do on any of the three systems. I would not know how to use 8 thousand extensions.



What are they? I can explain with Joomla as an example: they range from calendars, to stores, to photo galleries, to specialty editors, to video and multimedia displays, to blogs, to forums, to directories, to social neighborhoods, to comment posting . . . anything you want, and most are free. So this is a toss up – no one can really identify a clear winner here.



3. Myth 3 – Word Press has blogs and search engines love Word Press Blogs more . . .



First, they all have blogs. Word Press is a blog. You can add pages. The others are business sites with pages and you can add blogs. Which do you think sounds more appropriate for a business that wants to look more professional? Blogs are often associated with personal sites and more social or media news sites, in my opinion. You can make a very professional “business looking” Word Press site. You can make a very professional business site on Joomla for a tiny business or a big one and give it as many blogs as you want!



I am going to explain that since most folks here don’t know about Joomla: you build a Joomla site with a category for each main business section or theme you wish to feature. You can make every one of them a category blog instead of a page, playing dozens of page articles on any topics in the category, thus having multiple easy to post blogs for every category of knowledge, service, or product you wish to present to people and search engines. You can then post an extension such as JAComment® on it and turn on or off commenting on any page of the website you want. Its a bloggy bloggy blog if you want it to be, with all the bells and whistles, full of action that search engines love.



4. Myth 4 – Word Press is the Most Search Engine friendly because of the “All in One SEO Pack.”



They all have them. The SEO pack assists you to provide the title tags and meta description tags, for search engines. You can do this in one easy place for your various pages or posts. Word Press has it as an extra you install. Joomla has it as an extension you install. Easy peasy. Toss up on this, no one wins.



5. Myth 5 – There really is one more – Word Press is Cheaper



Yes you can get free templates, but those free templates are often ones made with old code that are themselves less search engine friendly and even can block the search engines from your content. You can get cheap templates, yes for both, $ 50 or $ 100 buys you something snazzy. You can hire people to tweak the templates – yup same prices apply.


You can hire people to design you custom templates – unique, fresh, special. I do this and I do it now for both Word Press and Joomla. Which of these is cheaper? I’ve heard a price for a good Word Press unique design can be as high as $ 3500. I’ve done Joomla custom unique templated sites for $ 1,000 to $ 5,000 and everywhere in between. Truth is it takes less time and money to code a custom Joomla template from scratch than a Word Press one if you consider the amount of advanced coding you need to do.



The net result here is that there is no one winning solution. You want to check which is the most appropriate for your business, for your professional presence, for your clients, and when you are looking, please get prices on each. It may surprise you that Word Press is not the only act in town.



Shared with love for all my wonderful Word Press colleagues. I love and respect you all. But I do belive in choice and we have choice here. Take a tour of each on their websites linked to above. Become knowledgeable before you act.



And if you want a Joomla website, or to learn more about them, check out an array of them on my portfolio website: www.peppergraphics.com, or my page here inside919.

 

(Last question – how did they get such funny names? its a geek thing :-)

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